Session Start: Sun Aug 22 15:08:07 1999
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<brightbel> headphones in position
<Pallav> yikes! what did I do/say?
<Neil_O> cool, Carol, I just turned it on
<FiberOp> ready freddy
<hanablue> i checked it
<MsCarol> the log will start with what you have in buffer, if you include that
<Pallav> good idea Neil.
<saaboot> first i have to say that the cd itself is very interestingly designed
<hanablue> love the clock faces
<MsCarol> ok ready
<HalN> i better not log it...there's a chance that my computer will crash during the listen..i have a cooling fan that's not operating right
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<Susan_C> maybe someone else can log it
<Neil_O> 10
<HalN> case is open..but if CPU over heats...i'm history
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<Neil_O> go
<Pallav> oh!
<Susan_C> oh?
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<hanablue> oh, go!
<Pallav> hmmm....
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<hanablue> hot guitar
<saaboot> take off towards the sunset
<Susan_C> remeber to set your volume low if you've got earphones
<sue_e> Keep fanning that CPU, Neil!
<HalN> i can try..but don't count on my getting all of it
<sachem> the voice type of opening
<Susan_C> otherwise.. crank it up so the neighbors can hear! :)
<Neil_O> I am logging it the chat from a little while ago, so don't worry about it Hal
<Pallav> I like it..and I think JL had a lot to do with it...
<MsCarol> you can replace the fan for about $15, I did mine once already and will need to do it again soon
<Pallav> lol..
<brightbel> whoo hoo!!!
<hanablue> making tracks!
<Pallav> well, I've kinda given up on them bringing back Mike ;-)
<Susan_C> it was a good idea to make this the single release
<sue_e> Reality finally creeping in, Pallav?
<MsCarol> will you post the log to LC Neil?
<hanablue> probably wisest, Pallav
<Pallav> besides, after their last three albums, there was only one way they could go....up
<Neil_O> Mark Murley of H&H says that it is "England" spoken by John
<sachem> sooner or later should be the single
<hanablue> true
<brightbel> this is my favorite, Strangely enough
<saaboot> lol pallav
<Susan_C> i hear it as 'england' as well
<Neil_O> He also says that there will be details about "more tea, vicar" in the next H&H
<Susan_C> really?
<sachem> that's what it sounds like in the headphones
<Neil_O> he saw John doing the "na na na" sounds in concert
<saaboot> well someone with headphones should listen really hard
<Pallav> ready
<Susan_C> a danceable song
<HalN> their last three albums were good...in my opionion
<hanablue> i'm starting t like it better
<sue_e> I think Justin is saying that he's accepted the fact that he's ageing and the he's determined to do it with dignity - the English way.
<saaboot> but not great hal?
<hanablue> not great in my op
<sachem> this album belongs to john, he scores big time
<saaboot> more tea, vicar
<Susan_C> more tea vicar?
<hanablue> yep
<sue_e> Nice ES there.
<Neil_O> I think the log might be a bit large to post.  I might send it to a web site where people can retrieve it as needed
<HalN> i was being cautious....all i know is that i love them just as much as the others
<hanablue> i like this vocal
<MsCarol> oh, good idea Neil
<sachem> most of justin's stuff is a continuation of view from the hill
<hanablue> there's a resemblance
<sachem> but john took me back to octave and ldv time
<Pallav> lots of acoustic guitar....about time!
<sue_e> Yes, his songs could easily be View II.
<Neil_O> I agree about a continuation
<MsCarol> you hear that too Paul, cool
<saaboot> most of jh's stuff is a continuation of nights in white satin, voices in the sky and lost and found
<Susan_C> england!
<Neil_O> I just don't hear the "land"
<Neil_O> maybe it is the equalization or my stereo
<hanablue> it's that accent ;)
<Pallav> cool....so does that mean that the next issue will  be on the making of ST?
<sue_e> who is doing those da da da's
<brightbel> all i hear is that guitar...whoo hoo!
<Pallav> you think Hal?
<HalN> john is
<Neil_O> John does them in concert, Sue
<hanablue> all of them?
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<hanablue> oh
<Susan_C> nice segue into the next song
<Pallav> I agree
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<saaboot> the most modern of the songs in coming to haunt us
<Pallav> can anyone tellme if I'm lagging??
<hanablue> Hal, i'm so jealous!
<Susan_C> anyone hear the bells?
<HalN> would be great if next issue of H&H was about the making of ST
<sue_e> Sleigh bells
<hanablue> i've got 10 weeks to wait!
<sachem> all the doots from strange times landed here
<Neil_O> it will at least about lots of things about English Sunset, I suspect
<sue_e> or maybe tambourine
* hanablue chuckles
* HalN missed why jen is jelous of him
<hanablue> for seeing the concert
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<HalN> hi peter
<sue_e> Hey, Peter!
<brightbel> hi peter
<MsCarol> Hi Peter
<sachem> hi peter
<Susan_C> hi peter!
<Neil_O> Hi Peter, we are in Haunted
<buske> hidi
<saaboot> hi peter
<HalN> it was without orchestra...and it was PERFECT
<Susan_C> just in time for Haunted!
* sue_e waits for another earthquake to hit....
<saaboot> nice piano
<Neil_O> Peter, do you have the album yet?
<brightbel> i should have known
<sue_e> Lots of keyboards on this album.
<sachem> 3 min to track 3 of strange times peter
<buske> sorry but I haven't received a copy yet !
<hanablue> what about Bias? Hal, was he in his rightful place?
<Neil_O> this passage is very nice
<MsCarol> Pallav, you are om sodre
<Susan_C> Haunted was without orchestra?  good good
<HalN> yes he was
<hanablue> somebody said Danilo was in a grey suit, so i wondered
<buske> my order has been shipped 08-19
<MsCarol> you might want to switch to Hebron
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<hanablue> good
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<Susan_C> 'om sodre'?
<HalN> it was the regular lineup: the jays, ray, graeme, gordon, paul, bias, sue, tracey
<HalN> hi pal
<Neil_O> good luck in receiving it soon, Peter
<hanablue> and Tracy's new 'doo?
<MsCarol> wb Pallav
<buske> approx date of arrival 2-8 weeks !
<Pal> Hi guys...got booted
<Neil_O> yikes
<sue_e> Did Justin play acoustic guitar on any of the new songs, Hal?
<buske> according to cdnow
<Susan_C> you need to be careful around italian men.. they have a reputation
<hanablue> gotta talk more, Pallav
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<Guest00787> hmmm...thought I was
<sachem> the jays, the drums, the keys, the bubs and a flute guy hal
<Neil_O> Peter, it sounds like direct from the fan club might have been faster
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<HalN> i think he did..but I was in the 21st row...didn't pay that much attention to the guitars
<Neil_O> another good passage 
<Susan_C> i can get it from borders for a good price and post it to anyone
<Neil_O> it is parallel to previous melodic one
<brightbel> in this world of song...
<saaboot> but if you order from the fan club it prolly wont show up on the billboard charts
<hanablue> love 'that sound'
<Pallav> are we around the 2.50 mark on haunted?
<MsCarol> [Pallav PING reply]: 2 seconds
<buske> maybe neil, but this way it saves me a lot of bucks !
<Susan_C> and best buy is coming to the bay area
<Pallav> thanks carol!
<Neil_O> 3:50
<hanablue> i'm at 3.5
<sachem> this doesn't do as much for me as all that is real is you does for me
<buske> and sure I CAN wait !
<sue_e> I'm a minute ahead of you, Pallav.
<Pallav> ok...
<Neil_O> that's good as well, Peter
<MsCarol> if you get bumbed again you might want to try getting on Hebron\
<HalN> best buy had ST on sale for $11.99
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<Susan_C> same for borders
<hanablue> i know i'll need a second copy
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<FiberOp> too much whimsy - glo
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<sachem> THIS IS THE SINGLE
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<sue_e> Well, I paid more than that, but CDNow got it all the way to the Montana boonies on the release date.
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<saaboot> love this song
<hanablue> this is my absolute favorite!!!
<sue_e> Ray!!!!!!
<sachem> this could be big on top 40 radio
<Neil_O> blue jays in action
<hanablue> trading off the lines!
<saaboot> very travelling willbury like feel 
<rainbow_1> I keep finding myself singing out loud to it
<hanablue> John!
<sue_e> It's a hoot that Ray does the "online" one!
<Pallav> does anyone else think this has an REM sound to it?
<sachem> everything about it says HIT
* brightbel maintains that it could be love!
<hanablue> Ray!
<hanablue> Justin!
<sue_e> Very early REM, maybe..
<HalN> live for the moment..cause life is worth living..
<saaboot> not really rem
<MsCarol> online?
<Neil_O> well, I should be getting my second copy later this week as I bought one from Broders in person after my copy was backordered at cdnow
<Pallav> ok...
<MsCarol> online one what?
<HalN> love will surround you...sooner or later...sooner or later
<sue_e> "Send a message on your online"
<hanablue> wearing no disguise
<sue_e> There!
<MsCarol> oh
<saaboot> sooner of later
<HalN> and you can do it in your own time..
<Neil_O> ah, wow, a few seconds of Rays
<saaboot> sooner or later
<sachem> ROCKING IN THE CHAIR
<sue_e> It's funny because Ray is the big technophobe.
<saaboot> lol paul
* hanablue sighing
<brightbel> paul!!!!
<Neil_O> a fun uplifting song
<HalN> a little MB irony there..
<sue_e> Sounds very Les Paul there
<hanablue> remember the core-7 were considered depressing?
<Neil_O> was that Ray with "shelter from the weather"?
<hanablue> an about face with this one
<saaboot> basically hana, they had a depressing feel to them
<sue_e> Yup
<sachem> sorry brigette this one doesn't take me to the ceiling like some moody songs but some strong rocking in the chair
<Pallav> anyone know who plays the tambourine?
<hanablue> great picking guitar
<brightbel> o i c
<sue_e> Usually Ray?  At least in concert
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<saaboot> nice guitar work
<MsCarol> Ray or the puter, your guess
<hanablue> dang!
<hanablue> that's good
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<brightbel> welcome visitor123
<sue_e> Welcome visitor!
<visitor123> hi
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<MsCarol> welcome visitor
<HalN> hi visitor
<Pallav> I love the spooky beginning
<visitor123> thanks
<saaboot> these times have passed and gone
* MsCarol really likes this one
<saaboot> its about time you wrote some new songs john
<sue_e> Leave behind the hurt...
<HalN> it's time that we move on..into a new tomorrow...
<Pallav> me too carol!
<hanablue> strong vocal
<sachem> nobody better do any john bashing for tosol sur la mer and kotk because john is back
<HalN> yes, it is...
<hanablue> found his range
<MsCarol> when John hits the mark, he really hits it right on!
<sue_e> Nice bass line in there, too.
<HalN> and john sure doesn't sound like he's straining his voice when he sings WYS live..
<Pallav> wel, he still deserves it for writing rock n' roll over you ;-)
* hanablue LOL
<saaboot> so tonight you can lean on me again
<sue_e> Touche Pallav
<Pallav> grin
<MsCarol> lol
<saaboot> nice ominous music though
<Neil_O> another very nice segment there
<hanablue> this is the first time i notice the orchestration coming in
<Pallav> yeah baby!
<visitor123> do you love arabic music?
<sue_e> WE're listening to Strange Times, visitor - do you have the album?
<Pallav> that can't be the flute can it? ;-)
<saaboot> rai is not bad - col
<sue_e> Is that Justin on a STrat?
<Pallav> flute is supposed to be passe'
<brightbel> flute samples? (-:
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<Pallav> lol
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<saaboot> love this song
<Neil_O> nice beginning to this song
<hanablue> another great kick-off
<saaboot> me too - col
<saaboot> a perfect song
<brightbel> it still could be love!
<sue_e> Like the minor note here.
<Pallav> see, to me this is the weakest song on the album......
<HalN> well, they did a lot of sampling of themselves in ST..so if it's flute samples..it's of Ray
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<saaboot> beautiful glorious singing
<MsCarol> oh, I think there is one MUCH weaker than this
<hanablue> foolish youth!
<saaboot> riding on a wave walking on air
<Pallav> hmmm...sounds too much like vfth...
<MsCarol> in fact I think this one is pretty good
<hanablue> it does a little, Pallav
<sue_e> This is definitely a Blue Jays song
<saaboot> better than vfth
<brightbel> no danger and no doubt...sigh
<saaboot> but even so so what
<brightbel> sniff
<FiberOp> caught my ears
<FiberOp> -glo
<brightbel> BEAUTIFUL, GLORIOUS!!
* hanablue handing brightbel a kleenex
<HalN> the weakest of the moody blues songs ( actually no such thing exists) is lightyears ahead of most others songs
<FiberOp> glo-like the beat
<Pallav> well....sounds like ti didnt require jl, rt, and GE to compose this song
<Pallav> ti=it
<saaboot> great melody
<saaboot> nice voice like synth there
<brightbel> thanks hanablue...
<hanablue> soaring background
<saaboot> great singing - what more do you want from a song
<FiberOp> a fav already 1st listen
<saaboot> great topic and well written lyrics
<hanablue> Shawn :)
<saaboot> this song has it
<FiberOp> -glo
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<saaboot> a song about staying in love for many years
<saaboot> as love changes
<Pallav> knew I'd be in the minority on this one...
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<MsCarol> bye Pater
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<MsCarol> oh, wb back Peter
<buske> voila
<hanablue> we love you anyway, P
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<Pallav> grin...
<HalN> wb peter
<sachem> must have cyberspace at work again peter
<saaboot> lean on me part iii
<FiberOp> glo- geez John getting so mushy....hhhhmmmmm
<hanablue> Dave!
<sachem> this is great
<Pallav> with a bettr melody and a much much better voice....
<HalN> what have i missed...what have i done..i'm gonna turn back the time..like it's just begun.]
<sue_e> Very Beattlesque
<hanablue> the orchestration adds so much
<Neil_O> nice background sounds and melody here in the "time changes" part
<HalN> time changes...times changes..times changes for the better..
<Pallav> true...
<saaboot> although the lyric what have i missed what have i done is sung better than most of what he has done here
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<FiberOp> ouch - that hurt.. musical transition...
<brightbel> hi gary
<MsCarol> Hi Gary
<saaboot> hi gary
<HalN> hi gary
<sue_e> HI GAry
<saaboot> what have i missed, what have i gone wrong
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<Neil_O> hi Gary
<FiberOp> John I think is just getting into his feelings a LOT more   I like it...Glo
<saaboot> i like the way he keeps changing the refrain
<Neil_O> I really like this "time changes" segment of the song
<HalN> time changes...times changes....time changes for the better
<deja_blue> hey eveyone!
<buske> test
<saaboot> hey gary
<Pallav> neil, can you please give me a countdown for the next song? think I'm lagging..
<buske> YES!
<Neil_O> nice background ooohs
<brightbel> love don't come easy, gary
<HalN> you're here, peter
<Pallav> oh!
<Neil_O> Pallav, about a minute and a half
<FiberOp> sounds like a song he wrote for his wife...bluesy-Glo
<Pallav> well, nevermind then..ok..thanks neil
<deja_blue> you mean that Ringo Starr song??
<buske> Neil, you gave me something extra !
<Neil_O> Peter?
<MsCarol> 45
<saaboot> strange times changes things for the better
<Neil_O> Hal did that
<HalN> lol, dave
<Neil_O> I think
<MsCarol> 30
* HalN pleads guilty as charged
<MsCarol> 20
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<MsCarol> 10
<FiberOp> very melancholy-Glo
<MsCarol> now
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<Pallav> thanks carol!
<sachem> now justin scores big time
<sue_e> Definitely a Country beginning!
<saaboot> colette thinks everyone should buy an additional cd to help the billboard charts
<buske> until now I've seen only two negative opinions about ST. how about you?
* HalN is a confirmed Core 14er...
<hanablue> away in a manger...
<brightbel> jus' hayward's greatest hits vol.1
<saaboot> every1 sing along to this hymn
<sue_e> But was why was the guitar intro so muted?
<Neil_O> yes, a little twang there at the beginning
<deja_blue> lol Hal
<FiberOp> so slow
<Pallav> people either seem to love or hate this song
<hanablue> amen
<buske> Hal is operator?
<sue_e> Sounded like he was playing it in the next room
<Neil_O> Hal has ops privileges
<saaboot> go justin - col
<hanablue> langorous, Shanw
<saaboot> great song - col
<FiberOp> sounds like he is speaking....glo
<Pallav> anyone elese wonder who the "you" is?
<saaboot> great song - dvae
<saaboot> dave
<hanablue> it's me!!
<hanablue> hehehe
<Pallav> lol...
<saaboot> the same you as in nights in white satin
<brightbel> oh how i love you
<HalN> it isn't necessarily a person..or any particular person..
<hanablue> darn...
<Neil_O> Peter, I only saw two strong negative posts on the album on Lost Chords.  I wasn't too thrilled on my first listen when I had a headache and was working.  It is better this time.
<sue_e> Well, if it's not Marie, Justin is in a world of hurt =-)
<Pallav> a higher power?
<FiberOp> this is a touchy feely cd so far...glo
<Pallav> maybe?
<HalN> though if it is a particular person..i agree with dave...the same person that inspires so many of his songs from NIWS..on..
<brightbel> blue guitar, i swear this reminds me of that here
<saaboot> well glo don't you like touchy feely cds
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<brightbel> just for a moment there
<hanablue> take me back, my love
<FiberOp> sometimes...sometimes I like to rock out...glo
<hanablue> ES is closest to a rocker on this cd
<brightbel> sniff
<buske> This is really odd, to read comments about songs you are longing to hear but cannot
<saaboot> well there is "the one"
<FiberOp> people were saying this was techno...glo...why?
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<saaboot> not this song, english sunset glo - col
<FiberOp> pick it up YES!! glo
<sue_e> Everybody get your doots ready
<hanablue> ES was the only techno track Shawn
<HalN> the people who said that ES was techno are the same people who think that some MB songs are disco...country...etc.
<Pallav> my fav from this album
<saaboot> bring your own doots
<sachem> this could be a single too
<Neil_O> right, Jen, ES is the most rocker on the album
<saaboot> this should be the single
<hanablue> i like it better because i'm familiar with it, i think
<Pallav> I agree
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<FiberOp> age of Aqurius glo
<saaboot> col also thinks this should be the single
<hanablue> i guess they agonized on which song to go with
<sue_e> WEll, in some ways I *do* think this is more techno - I really couldn't see much at all of this played "unplugged."
<saaboot> so the single it is
<saaboot> since whatever the single is it won't be played on the radio
<HalN> and IJASSIARRB could be played acoustic?
<hanablue> it's being played in Portland, Oregon
<HalN> gemini dream?
<saaboot> though colette thinks she can convince the local dj to play it
<HalN> rmss?
<Pallav> it seems to be a guitar based song though sue
<hanablue> go for it, Col
<sue_e> Yes, Hal, it really could.
<Neil_O> this is probably my second favorite song so far
<Susan_C> i prefer the guitar to the doots
<saaboot> strange times strang times
<Pallav> so an unplugged version should be possible
<Neil_O> how does the live performance differ?
<Susan_C> you go girl colette! :)
<saaboot> thanks for the encouragement hana - col
<hanablue> woo hoo!
<MsCarol> hana....you in Portland?
<FiberOp> just arrange differently for unplugged glo
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<sue_e> No, it would lose a lot because of all the synth stuff.
<saaboot> thanks susan - col
<hanablue> Salem, Portland is our market
<MsCarol> I'm visiting Mom in Portland right now!
<Susan_C> :)
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<HalN> techo is programmed music..by computer ..no live people....usually instrumental...that's my definition of it, anyway
<hanablue> you were supposed to call me up!
<hanablue> so we could get together!
<deja_blue> yes, you care correct Hal, MIDI generated
<FiberOp> sounds like they r playin it to me glo
<saaboot> but also techno is usually avant guarde dance music
<sachem> mind still sings the doots
<saaboot> garde =- col
<sachem> or what's left of it
<Susan_C> garde?
<Pallav> anyone not going to see thim in concert?
<Pallav> thim=them
<sue_e> Me =-(
<Pallav> oh!
<rainbow_1> Neil, I believe he changes some of the words on stage in this song.
<MsCarol> oh darn!
<HalN> just because you can dance to it..doesn't make it techno..disco..etc..
<Susan_C> here are the doots
<HalN> heck.if dancing to it makes it disco..then NIWS is disco..
<MsCarol> me Pallav, can't afford a long trip
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<hanablue> i think the techno part is why young people like ES
<saaboot> no hal but techno is electronic dance music i thought
<Pallav> I see...
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<HalN> any music would be disco or techno by that definitions
<saaboot> in that case the moody blues are always techno
<hanablue> listen to the orchestra swelling in here
<saaboot> brahms like beginning -col
<Susan_C> here comes john's tearful song
<saaboot> the best of the song - col
<hanablue> i like it
<HalN> well...there are electronic instruments on most MB music
<Neil_O> very nice orchestrated beginning
* hanablue catching her breath
<Pallav> lol
<hanablue> :)
<FiberOp> wow! glo
* sue_e is SO glad they included a lyric sheet!
<HalN> and this was performed live..the orchestra comes from the keyboards...so this must be techno
<brightbel> but i don't know what it is that makes me ignore you!!!
<FiberOp> me too sue
<hanablue> they had to didnt' they, Sue?
<hanablue> we demanded one!
<saaboot> sorry i wasn't paying attention i must be ignoring you
<Susan_C> it's difficult eating a fruit tart and listening to this at the same time
<hanablue> Hal, what a good observation -- i was wondering about that
<Pallav> folks...seems I'm tuck on this thread..who is "you" in this song?
<HalN> this sounded just about like the CD in louisville friday night...no orchestra for that show...
<deja_blue> oh I forhot to ask you Hal..duhhh...was Bias on keyboards the other night?
<Pallav> tuck=stuck
<saaboot> who you calling a tart, sue
<HalN> yes, he was, paul
<Susan_C> which 'you'?
<Pallav> words "you" say to me
<brightbel> i don't want to wake up now...
<sachem> yea me too sue, always thought it was the house by the waterslide thought he lived by an amusement park glad that's cleared up
<deja_blue> so Bias and Bliss were both there?
<HalN> yes
<sue_e> LOL, Paul
<MsCarol> lol Paul
<Susan_C> oh dave.. everyone knows you're a tart ;)
<HalN> and if danilio was there..he was backstage..i never saw him
<saaboot> lol paul - col
<deja_blue> hmmmm
<FiberOp> lol
<HalN> paul plays guitar on a couple of the songs..
<saaboot> strawberry or cherry - col
<sachem> i do
<Neil_O> is this faster paced in concert?
<brightbel> no
<HalN> paced about the same
<Pallav> god i love the acoustic guitar here...
<sue_e> Does John play bass on this in concert?
<FiberOp> Strawberry!!!
<MsCarol> well Hana we are booked for the first half of the week but In will be here till the 31st
<saaboot> lol shawn
<Susan_C> the tart is a fruit tart.. peaches, mandarin oranges, strawberries and kiwi fruit on top of a custard filling :>
<HalN> notice the drumming on most of ST...back to more like it was on the core7
<brightbel> i (still) don't want to wake up now...
<Pallav> yes....they actually used graeme
<Neil_O> the inside images of the liner are quite interesting
<Susan_C> it's from a place in SF called Tart to Tart .. it's run by a Vietnamese family
<saaboot> if you are sleeping how come you are typing
<hanablue> Carol , whoot me your e addy before we log off
<sue_e> So what happened to that Irish drum Graeme had in the pictures?
<hanablue> whoot=shoot
<FiberOp> :...(
<sue_e> Anybody hear it on this albm?
<hanablue> giggle
<saaboot> drank it, i presume sueee
<HalN> btw, have people been noticing the clock sounds on wherever you are, and just not mentioning it
<sachem> this is album is a double meaning album, it is all about the moodies and where they are and were they are going and their fans. and a very nice subtle job of doing it
<Susan_C> _i_ want to know about the bells in Haunted
<Pallav> couldn't tell you sue..dont know what it sounds like
<hanablue> no Hal, what?
* HalN doesn'
<sue_e> Sorry, my typos are worse than usual - I'm typing with a broken finger.
<MsCarol> ouch sue!!!!!
<Pallav> yikes!
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<Susan_C> aww
<saaboot> now they can use the gong on two songs
<Pallav> how did that happen sue?
<FiberOp> bummer
<HalN> besides ringing bells of clocks...there's a ticking sound on wherever you are...clock ticking..
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<hanablue> Jus' guitar opening
<saaboot> sorry to hear that sueee
<Susan_C> i LOVE this song
<sachem> ray
<hanablue> Ray's wonder ful voice
<Neil_O> that was a weird sound at the end of that track
* hanablue swooning
<saaboot> this is a great ray contribution
<MsCarol> this song is too short!!!!!
<FiberOp> Hal - that is your watch..
<sue_e> I'm ashamed to say I was rebounding basketballs for my son and caught one wrong.
<Neil_O> from the longest track (5:31) to the shortest (1:45)
* brightbel still needs more pixie glue
<saaboot> and the guys really help out with their harmonies
<sue_e> Waaay too short!
<FiberOp> singing to a child? glo
* HalN wouldn't know one drum from another..so doesn't know where the irish drum is used
<Pallav> wow!..hope you feel better soon
<MsCarol> needs a flute bridge followed by a repeat of the last verse
<HalN> nope.
<sachem> needed a flute solo after the second verse and then repeat for a third verse
<saaboot> night visions
<hanablue> me, too brightbele
<Susan_C> not all angels grow wings
<HalN> my watch is quite electronic
<Susan_C> they seem to saor by other means
<HalN> no ticking...
<FiberOp> yea, he's Grandpa now.
<Susan_C> you can fly alhtough it seems
<Neil_O> you can hear the angels get their wings there
<saaboot> so choose night visions wisely
<Susan_C> a little slowly
<sue_e> But it's very appropriate - my finger is turning all shades of Moody Blue!
<hanablue> all 3 Moodies!
<Pallav> lol..
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<sue_e> Nice fingerstyle guitar there
<Susan_C> gosh..it's overy
<FiberOp> I love that one!!!!!
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<Susan_C> er.. over
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<HalN> night visions make spirits sour..
<saaboot> night visions make spirits soar
<brightbel> when is intermission?
<FiberOp> John song - Glo is on a tissue run.
<HalN> soar..
<HalN> no intermission...just like the louisville show
<Pallav> sue...why doesnt your husband like ST?
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<saaboot> if we could live forever, we have some very strange times indeed
<Neil_O> more orchestration there
<HalN> hi strange tim
<Pallav> like the echo here
<sue_e> He hasn't liked anything since Mike left...
<sachem> hi tim
<brightbel> hello tim
<Susan_C> hi tim
<MsCarol> Hi Tim
* StrangeTim is kinda late
<Pallav> oh..ok
<Neil_O> flute
<saaboot> hey strange tim
<sue_e> He says he can't hear anything but Justin and John on this album
<HalN> if we could be here for forever..where in this world would heaven be?
<deja_blue> see ya later i gotta go
<Pallav> I hear a lot of graeme!
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<HalN> bye gary
<hanablue> at this point i really notice there's lots of John on this one
<saaboot> must be he can't hear the tone of ray or flute anymore
<Pallav> lennon!
<FiberOp> lol hanna
<Neil_O> another one of those real nice segments
<hanablue> think so? everyone?
* StrangeTim must be lagging by about 30 seconds
<Neil_O> StrangeTim, you need to be on hebron in order not to lag as much
<saaboot> if we could live forever
* FiberOp thinks StrangeTim is out of Time
<hanablue> i guess i'm slow, Shawn
<HalN> where would our dreams lead us too
<saaboot> kind of interesting thoughts
<HalN> living in the children's world of simple facination....
<sachem> far as I'm concerned I don't understand exactly what some people are looking for, you will never hear the first 7 albums again. no mike and no mellotron. the best that you can get is from octave on and that is where they took us if that is bad then so be it but this album is more than the jays and it has great ending with graeme
<MsCarol> [StrangeTim PING reply]: 23 seconds
<saaboot> every moment would be the same
<hanablue> Paul, you've got it!
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<FiberOp> seeing John as very Moody indeed....glo
<Neil_O> more Ray vocals would be better, though
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<Pallav> well, Paul, the one thing they could bring back, for good, is that old coffee table.  that is very much in their hands
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<hanablue> okay, what's this one about?
<MsCarol> I agree with that Neil!!
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<brightbel> the one what?
<saaboot> i think this song is about pee wee herman
<HalN> it's *not* about mike
<sue_e> I like the guitar on this one, the key changes.
<Susan_C> deb thinks this song is the band talking to other young and upcoming bands
<Neil_O> another rocker, more or less
<hanablue> DAVE!!
<Susan_C> oh dave
<Pallav> interesting thought Susan
<Neil_O> it is about Monica, of course
<MsCarol> [StrangeTim2 PING reply]: 2 seconds....much better
* HalN stills is amazed that so many think that the other MB's are obssessed with writing songs to mike
<Pallav> lol@neil
<saaboot> maybe they were watching behind the music
<StrangeTim2> yes
<Susan_C> and also talking to themselves too
* hanablue LOL
<HalN> lol, neil
<saaboot> glory days without a trace
<saaboot> can't be about a new band
<HalN> true, dave
<Pallav> me thinks they dragged the ending on this one.
<saaboot> must be about someone who was famous
<saaboot> and no longer is
<hanablue> howzabout "everybody wants to rule the world"?
<saaboot> and is trying to make a comeback
* StrangeTim2 doesn't like this song that much anyway
<HalN> or maybe, anybody who was on top...got disgraced..fell....
<saaboot> after an embarrising incident
<HalN> into obscurity...
<Pallav> gary hart
<HalN> lol
<Neil_O> a member of the royal family (or former member) ?
<saaboot> embarrassing
<HalN> pee wee herman..
<saaboot> thus pee we herman
<Pallav> true
<saaboot> who everybody loved
<saaboot> and who had used a different name
<Pallav> milli vanneli ;-)
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* sue_e is clueless about this one...
<brightbel> it sounds as if they were hurt by something someone said
<saaboot> but really could be almost any other famous person
<HalN> i just like the song.
<Susan_C> maybe it's a story told to young bands  and the same time talking about themselves.. and to themselves.. and what the band encounters from it's fans and former fans
<hanablue> nice picking
<Susan_C> does that cover it? ;)
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<saaboot> who had their 15 minutes of fame
<Susan_C> i love this song
<sachem> this is very yes like
<saaboot> i like the one too hal - col
<saaboot> but we love this song
<sue_e> I'd LOVE to see Justin do this one live!
<Susan_C> me too
<saaboot> the swallow is another perfect song
<Neil_O> almost a little bit of dueling bangoes there
<Pallav> justin showing off....about time!!!!
<Susan_C> i really really really love the guitar work on this
<hanablue> chet atkins?? is that you?
<saaboot> prolly real percussion by graeme there
<MsCarol> or about the fool from rolling stone who was always trying to degrade than but never quite succeded
<Susan_C> next time people.. yell out for justin to do this in concert! :)
<brightbel> jus' hayward's greatest hits vol.2
<FiberOp> Carol, I don't think they hold a grudge that long..
<saaboot> strange times go by in the blink of an eey
<Neil_O> so that was about a full minute intro to this song
<sachem> and how could anybody not like an album with a lot of graeme in it. the first thing that I noticed
* StrangeTim2 now has "The Swallow" on...and is following the conversation
<MsCarol> hhmmmm, perhaps Shawn
<hanablue> reminds me of Voices in the Sky
<sue_e> Anybody else notice the change from acoustic to electric guitar on the last stanza of the intro?
<saaboot> nice strawberry fields mellotron there
<Susan_C> i lvoe that line.. it's so strange .. life in the very slow lane :D
<sue_e> How did he do that?
<Pallav> yup, I did sue!
<saaboot> love the melody 
<saaboot> love this song
* HalN must be living in a child's world of simple facination..for that's just what he is..facinated by all MB music
<saaboot> voices in the sky revisited
<FiberOp> sue - he came back from the break and picked up the wrong guitar.
<MsCarol> lol
<hanablue> Hal, you're not alone
<saaboot> wide outside - maybe greatest singing
<FiberOp> this is lovely, classic Justin - Glo
<saaboot> lol shawn
<Neil_O> another one of those nice passages that really take me away "in the wide outside..."
<sue_e> Or he was wearing two guitars at once <g>
<FiberOp> birds yes glo
<Pallav> lol sue
<brightbel> no more mind games
<MsCarol> hana, did you see the little window with my nick in it?
<Susan_C> here it comes
<sachem> not a throw away song on this album
<hanablue> replied, yes Carol. i got it
<StrangeTim2> another Beatlesque song........"Blackbird"??
<MsCarol> I'm not at home so I have no e addys here
<HalN> yep..
<sue_e> Nice interplay of acoustic and electric here..
<saaboot> they blend so well into each other - col
<HalN> but there never are throwaway songs on MB albums
<MsCarol> ok thanks
<saaboot> the next song and this one - col
* sue_e threw away Slings and Arrows a long time ago.
<hanablue> very nice beat, melody
<HalN> if anything..they've thrown away great songs...by not putting them on the album
<Pallav> neil, the outro is 2 mins long!
<saaboot> but there is one throw away cd (kotk)
<sachem> this is true hal for me and you. but dare I say some out there do not feel that sentiment
<brightbel> sounds like they're really getting into the groove here
<HalN> a la simple game..highway..king and queen..
<HalN> etc..
<Neil_O> yes, indeed, a long intro and outro for this
<hanablue> that's okay by me, P
<Susan_C> I LOVE THE GUITAR
<Neil_O> I'm glad it is not just repetition
<Neil_O> it is very nice
<sue_e> I'll bet that's Justin's Olson guitar.  Beautiful, isn't it?
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<Susan_C> LOL
<hanablue> jammin'
<saaboot> great outro - more than okay - col
<Pallav> I agree...I'm loving it!
<Susan_C> it's a dance song silly
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<HalN> that's ok by me...we are all individuals..what some love....others hate...none are right...all are right...
<MsCarol> yeah, love the guitar an that
<Neil_O> interesting beginning here
<Pallav> yup..
<Neil_O> the music just carrying us up in the sky
<hanablue> sitting in class
<saaboot> everyone is a suspect and no one is a suspect
<HalN> lol, dave
<hanablue> y'see, i just wonder if the Moodies' aren't big history buffs
<sachem> this matches up very well with the balance. not quite as strong
<MsCarol> that's the lawyer in you Dave
<hanablue> bookends the 'Theme' i think
<saaboot> sounds a little like richard burton on war of the worlds
<Pallav> anyone posted a review on amazon.com?
<saaboot> colette agrees with me
<StrangeTim2> On Tuesday before work, this is one of 3 songs I HAD to hear before I had to leave
<FiberOp> I like it - us
<saaboot> i posted a review pall
<Neil_O> thank goodness, they know when the new century and millennium begins
<Pallav> cool...
* HalN is a hopeless optamist...and always searches for the beauty around him...one finds what they search for...
<hanablue> great Shawn/Glo, welcome to the fold!
<saaboot> here comes the voice
<Pallav> last time I checked, there were 17 reviews
<Neil_O> hear the flute
<Susan_C> here's the pretty bit
* brightbel likes hal's sentiment, but wonders if it could be true
<saaboot> carol that is a line from the pink panther 
<HalN> it IS true..
<FiberOp> hana - we have a flock here, not a fold.
<StrangeTim2> This one should be great live
<Susan_C> i love that guitar
<MsCarol> which?
<saaboot> here is the voice - col
<saaboot> the suspect line
<Susan_C> nothing changes
<brightbel> i hope so, hal (-:
<Susan_C> and nothing stays the same
<MsCarol> oh, ok
<Susan_C> and life is still
<hanablue> nesting has it's own rewards, eh?
<Susan_C> a simple game
<sue_e> Hail Buddy Holly!
<Neil_O> a simple game!
<FiberOp> YOU BET!!
<HalN> sounds like a contradiction..but it it isn't...just a paradox..
<saaboot> and there he sings like old moodies voice
<brightbel> oh, this is sooooo great in concert!!!
<sachem> the album is too short!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<Neil_O> a great ending to the album
<Pallav> lol
<Susan_C> lovely
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<HalN> lol, paul
<hanablue> all hail! LOL Sue
<Susan_C> oh darn darn darn darn darn
<saaboot> wow
<MsCarol> thanks Neil
<Pallav> well, that was fun..
<hanablue> it was great listening with y'all!
<HalN> yes, it was...
<HalN> can we do it again?
<Susan_C> i'm gonna miss the new album tour :(
<sachem> same here jen
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* StrangeTim2 is so sorry he was so late....
<hanablue> Paul :)
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<sachem> we will do this again next friday nite jen
<sue_e> Anybody else wonder if the Justin songs are the ones he originally said were meant for a second solo slbum?
<hanablue> ttyl, Carol
<Neil_O> that was fun
<MsCarol> well we will do it again on friday night Tim
<Pallav> gotta go folks.......twas a pleasure...
<hanablue> Shawn, be 'round us more, we miss ya
<Pallav> ciao
<sue_e> That is, a second one to View?
* HalN doubts that..justin has tons of songs..
<hanablue> bye Pallav
<StrangeTim2> hmm..ok
<HalN> bye pallav
<MsCarol> ok Hana
<rainbow_1> Thank you all, gotta go.  
<saaboot> we hope not sue - we want at least another solo - col
<Pallav> bye all
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<saaboot> and more moody stuff too
<HalN> yep
<brightbel> come again, rainbow
<FiberOp> hana - thank u, I try. But the flock has to have a Poppy to cuddle with. :)
<hanablue> buh-bye. [sniff]
<Neil_O> that was definitely better the second time around, though it hasn't all soaked into me yet
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<saaboot> bye every1
<MsCarol> well, I too am on limited time here
<HalN> this was only your second listen, neil?
<Susan_C> i have favorites.. i cann stop listening to Haunted
<FiberOp> bye Dave/Col
<HalN> bye col and dave
<MsCarol> see ya'all later
<sue_e> I'm off, too.  Have a great week all - it's been fun!!
<HalN> bye carol
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<HalN> take car
<Susan_C> canna stop 
<HalN> care
<brightbel> i still mix bits and pieces of songs up in my mind
<HalN> bye sue
<MsCarol> thanks Hal
<brightbel> bye sue
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<MsCarol> bye all
<sachem> on the 108th play, I think it is a super album( that makes 14 super album by my count)
<Neil_O> yes, just the day after I bought it and now.  I wanted to save the first full stereo listen for this
<brightbel> later, carol
<FiberOp> Not sure if I will like this whole album, but I like some of it.
* HalN doesn't have the discipline for that
<sachem> bye carol
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<FiberOp> bye Carol
<HalN> this baby was unwrapped and in the car's CD player before i left the parking lot
<sachem> same here hal
<FiberOp> Glo bought it and didn't tell me till last night.
<HalN> wow
<Susan_C> i hope they do this line up at a casino gig.. i hope they have a casino tour
<brightbel> they really do tighten that shrink wrap, don't they?
<HalN> so, was this your first listen, shawn?
<Neil_O> it hasn't grabbed me off the bat like Octave and LDV did, though part of LDV might have been airplay, but it does have potential to rise up the ranks of the post core-7
<FiberOp> yep
<HalN> and your impressions are?
<Susan_C> (drum roll)
<brightbel> holding breath
<FiberOp> I like some parts (like Rays and Graeme's) but not sure if the rest will wear off on me.
<FiberOp> ES will be a good one with time.
<Susan_C> spoken lke a true fan
<HalN> well, give it a listen with headphones..
<FiberOp> yea. headphones.
<Neil_O> sometime this week inbetween packing and such I'll have to take the good earphones out and take a listen lying down with my eyes shut and just get absorbed into it
<HalN> well, my fan is not turning at the speed that it should be...having case open may be what's keeping the CPU cool enough
<brightbel> gotta go folks...there are pictures up from the greenville show (-;
<FiberOp> Neil - where shall we relocate you in our mental maps??
<Neil_O> headphones, that is
<HalN> so i better shut down...
<HalN> bye brigette
<Susan_C> bye bel
<HalN> bye shawn and glo
<sachem> sooner or later, love don't come easy and all that is real is you are the songs that jumped out at me the first time around shawn
<HalN> bye neil
<Neil_O> same place more or less.  We are only moving to a bigger house about 2 or so miles away
<HalN> bye paul
<HalN> bye susan
<FiberOp> bye Hal
<HalN> nite moon
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<sachem> see ya hal
<Susan_C> bye hal
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<FiberOp> Neil - good, then my targeting does not need re doing. 
<Susan_C> i like ES, H, ST, TS and NC
<Susan_C> we've got to get accustomed to all new acronyms
<FiberOp> Paul - yea, I need to listen more, but of course I love the RAY and Graeme first. :)
<Neil_O> let's see - ES, LDCE, ST, MLL, and NC struck me the most this time
<Susan_C> cool
<FiberOp> sol playing now..
<Susan_C> i admit i like MLL too
<Susan_C> you're listening to it again shawn?
<FiberOp> could like that one if Justin did not sing it. (don't tell Glo)
<sachem> still when I hear rays song I say where is the rest of it, seems cut off
<Neil_O> well, I need to clear the phonelines.   Unless there is too much move related stuff next Sunday, I expect I'll be here.
<sachem> see ya neil
<Susan_C> bye neil.. good seeing ya again
<Neil_O> I'm taking off most of the week and it is going to be one painful birthday week
<FiberOp> bye Neil, happy move.
<sachem> try to make friday if possible
<Susan_C> who's birthday?
<Neil_O> mine - on Tuesday
<Susan_C> HAPPY BIRTHDAY NEIL!!!
<sachem> happy birthday
<Neil_O> thanks, I hope it will be
* Susan_C sends fairy dust to you
<Neil_O> bye all
<FiberOp> 8/24/99 - like a count down to Y2K
<sachem> and some pixie glue
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